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This is a question about how the civil war has been remembered in the past, and I have in mind my grandfather’s studying under a Columbia professor Dunning who…This is a question about how the civil war has been remembered in the past, and I have in mind my grandfather’s studying under a Columbia professor Dunning who succeeded in implanting the lost cause version of history in the classroom that was exemplified by the movie, Gone with the wind, suggesting that the South was betrayed, and that the Antebellum South was the good old days. I recall learning that the southern generals, Lee among them, wanted to turn the page and let America go forward with whatever it was going to become after they lost the war except that Reconstruction hardened the south leading to men like Dunning years later. So I’m wondering about general Grant and his popular military autobiography and the historical imprint it left to counter the Lost cause sentiment. What have the best historians argued about Grant’s books historical legacy?

9:15 AM Claude responded:

This is a rich and nuanced topic, and the historiography around Grant’s memoirs tracks almost perfectly with the broader arc of how Civil War memory was contes…Searched the webSearched the webThis is a rich and nuanced topic, and the historiography around Grant’s memoirs tracks almost perfectly with the broader arc of how Civil War memory was contested over the decades. Let me lay out what the best historians have argued.

The Memoirs Themselves: A Direct Challenge to Lost Cause Mythology

Grant explicitly names slavery as the central cause of the war — a position that became increasingly unpopular as the Lost Cause myth rose to dominance. That was a deliberate stance. The Memoirs directly rebuts the Lost Cause claim that the North won solely because of manpower and industrial advantages overwhelming supposedly superior Southern military leadership — a view tailor-made to fit the Lost Cause legend. Grant was essentially arguing: no, the Union cause was just, the Union generalship was superior, and the Confederacy lost on the merits. Encyclopedia.comClaremont Review of Books
The literary world recognized it immediately as something exceptional. Mark Twain declared the memoirs equal in mastery to Caesar’s Commentaries, and distinguished military historian John Keegan called them “the single contemporary document” that explains Union victory. Gettysburg College

Why the Memoirs Lost the Battle of Memory

Here is where your instinct about the cultural forces at work is borne out by the scholarship. While immediately hailed as a literary success, the memoirs fell out of popularity as the nation grappled with Reconstruction, reconciliation, and the entrenchment of Jim Crow. Historians increasingly focused on the failures and corruptions of Grant’s presidency, and as they made Grant a scapegoat for Reconstruction’s failures, Lost Cause advocates turned his military reputation into clichés of drunkenness and butchery. Gettysburg College
This is exactly where your grandfather’s professor Dunning fits. The Dunning School, working in the early 20th century, provided academic respectability to the idea that Reconstruction was a corrupt disaster imposed on a wounded South — which neatly complemented the Lost Cause narrative that Gone with the Wind then dramatized for mass audiences.

David Blight’s Framework — The Definitive Modern Account

The most important historian for understanding all of this is David Blight of Yale, whose 2001 book Race and Reunion: The Civil War in American Memory won the Bancroft Prize and several other major awards. Blight’s argument is that nearly lost in national culture were the moral crusades over slavery that ignited the war, the presence and participation of African Americans throughout it, and the promise of emancipation that emerged from it. His core thesis, as one reviewer summarized it, is that the unity of white America was purchased through the increasing segregation of Black and white memory of the Civil War — a nation that healed from civil war without justice. AmazonAmazon
Blight treats Grant’s memoirs as a complex document caught in this crossfire. Known today primarily for its reconciliationist sentiment, Grant’s Memoirs also contained two strongly worded refutations of Lost Cause ideology — but the reconciliationist passages were what the culture absorbed, while the anti-Lost Cause passages were quietly forgotten. In the 1880s and 1890s, the vast outpouring of Civil War memoirs, regimental histories, and magazine accounts largely sentimentalized white reunion, with few accounts of the African American experience finding their way into the popular narrative. Grant’s book was swept into that current even as it tried to push against it. H-NetH-Net

The Grant Rehabilitation — Recent Decades

In the three decades following William McFeely’s Pulitzer Prize-winning but harshly critical Grant biography, more recent scholars — most notably Brooks Simpson and Jean Smith — have resurrected Grant’s reputation, both militarily and politically. Ron Chernow’s massive 2017 biography continued this rehabilitation. The memoirs have been reread as a serious counter-narrative to Lost Cause mythology rather than merely a soldier’s self-justification. Gettysburg College
Elizabeth Samet’s annotated edition of the memoirs, published around 2018, breaks new ground in its attack on the Lost Cause revisionism that still distorts our national conversation about the legacy of the Civil War. Amazon

The Bottom Line

The tragic irony the historians illuminate is this: Grant wrote a book that told the truth about slavery causing the war and about Union arms winning it fairly — and then the culture, hungry for reconciliation between white Northerners and white Southerners, essentially set that truth aside. Dunning and Gone with the Wind filled the vacuum. It took nearly a century, and the Civil Rights Movement forcing a reckoning with what the war had actually been about, before Grant’s version of events began to be taken seriously again. The memoirs were ahead of their time and then behind their time, and are only now being fully recovered as the historical record they were meant to be.

NOTE: I HAD READ ONE OF THE MORE RECENT GRANT HISTORIES WHICH I PARTICULARLY VALUED AT THE TIME FOR REHABILITATING GRANT. HOWEVER, I COULDN’T REMEMBER WHICH ONE IT WAS. I CHECKED “MY READING LIST” TO CONFIRM THAT IT WAS A HISTORY BY GEOFFREY PERRET WHICH IS NOT ONE OF THE BOOKS LAUDED IN CLAUDE’S REPLY TO MY FIRST QUESTION. THAT BEGGED A QUESTION WHICH I THEN ASKED:

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Is there a consensus about the historical treatment of Grant in “Ulysses S.Is there a consensus about the historical treatment of Grant in “Ulysses S. Grant Soldier & President ‘ by Geoffrey Perret

9:26 AM Claude responded:

There is actually a fairly clear consensus, though it breaks along an interesting fault line — between academic historians and general readers.Searched the webSearched the webThere is actually a fairly clear consensus, though it breaks along an interesting fault line — between academic historians and general readers.

What scholars say

Scholars universally deride Perret’s effort for its dozens of — usually minor — factual errors. The most detailed scholarly critique comes from a Civil War Times review that catalogs specific problems: Perret passes rather quickly over Grant’s role in Reconstruction during the Johnson administration, offering no new information on that period. His treatment of Grant’s presidency is plagued by errors — he elevates Grant’s diplomatic representatives from ministers to ambassadors, allows Alexander T. Stewart to serve as treasury secretary for two months when Stewart never actually served, and forgets that the Whiskey Ring controversy came to a head before the resignation of Secretary of War William Belknap. The same reviewer pointedly noted that Perret proudly informs us that Grant crushed the Ku Klux Klan in 1872 — a conclusion questioned by recent studies — but says not a word about the persistence and triumph of political terrorism in the South during Grant’s second term.

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Publishers Weekly noted that at times Perret overstates his case, arguing that Grant was surrounded by dimwits and lackeys rather than the solid supporters who in fact enabled his military talents, and that his relentless stressing of Grant’s wisdom results in an overly sympathetic biography. Publishers Weekly

Perret’s obvious affection for his subject occasionally blinds him to the moral and political failings of Grant the president. HistoryNet

What general readers find

The popular reception is considerably warmer. Most casual readers seeking an informative and pain-free journey through Grant’s life find the biography engaging and enjoyable. Immediately obvious is that it is fast-paced and lively. The endorsements on the book are also notable — John Y. Simon, who edited the monumental Papers of Ulysses S. Grant, called it the most absorbing and exciting biography of Grant since Bruce Catton. Best Presidential BiosAmazon

Where Perret fits in the larger arc

Despite its scholarly weaknesses, the book belongs to the important wave of Grant rehabilitation that began pushing back against the Dunning-era legacy. Often dismissed as a butcher general who won his battles by force of numbers, Grant had recently found favor among historians who appreciate his genius in adapting Americans to modern war, and Perret joined that march. One reviewer concluded that on balance, the volume stands among the finest comprehensive treatments of the man who did more than anyone except Lincoln to restore the Union. AmazonPublishers Weekly

So the short verdict: Perret wrote a vivid, sympathetic, and genuinely useful popular biography that moved the needle on Grant’s rehabilitation, but one that academic historians wouldn’t rely on for precision — particularly regarding Reconstruction, where the errors and omissions are most consequential given the very history you’ve been thinking about with Dunning’s influence.

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